Our Flag Means Death season 2: Release Date, Cast, and More to Know
Our Flag Means Death still doesn’t have a second season. So what’s the deal?
It’s a surprising decision given the outpouring of love the show has been steadily receiving on social media and the increasing popularity among other HBO Max content. Even Our Flag Means Death creator David Jenkins says he’s not sure what the holdup is.
“It’s a rough one to not pick up on after what happened at the end of it,” Jenkins told The Los Angeles Times in early April. “I hope they figure it out. They should do more. I know everyone on the show wants to.”
In the same interview, Taika Waititi (who stars as Blackbeard and executive produces the series, in addition to directing the pilot): “I don’t know anything. It makes perfect sense. Aside from that, I want to know the next steps. [Laughs]”
While the wait is certain to be agonizing, Jenkins and crew have alluded to things they’d like to see from the breakout show, were it to be renewed. Here’s everything we know about season 2 of Our Flag Means DeathBis now.
[Ed. note: As one might expect, this post gets into some spoilers for the end of season 1. Ye be warned.]
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When will the second season of Our Flag Means death air?
There is no word on the future. With the show not yet renewed, there’s not a lot of detail yet on when the show’s production will pick back up.
What is the vision for season 2’s plot?
While the broader plot elements of season 2 aren’t released yet, Jenkins has alluded to cooking up some ideas as the writers were breaking season 1. As Jenkins told Polygon earlier this year, it was the last three episodes in particular that he thought were “really working” for what he has in mind for the show moving forward:
It’s great, the stories are really popping. There are like four different stories going on there, which to my mind is like “Eughhh, it’s a lot!” But it flows really nicely. It was fun to create this show. I wanted to include violent moments, as pirates are criminals. But there are also broad moments and laugh-out-loud hilarious moments. And then, we can just relax and see how people feel. As long as all those three things are alternating, I’m happy. One might take precedence in an episode, but if all three are there, it’s healthy and it’s working.
Of course, Waititi did tell Decider he had a complaint to raise for season 2’s costume choices: “It was all that hair and beard, I felt like no one would talk to me,” Waititi said. “It was so hot. It was so hot. I could just sit inside this tent and have the air conditioner on. I would feel lonely.”
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Lucius truly dead?
Given how fun Nathan Foad had in his role, and the overall tone of the story it seems unlikely. But when Collider asked Jenkins, he simply said “You got to wait.”
How will Stede or Ed fare in Season 2?
After the breakup of the series at season 1 was complete, the season 2 finale sees Stede return to his pirate life after having made peace with himself.
“So he started to feel, obviously, physically — by being very severely wounded — and then emotionally, by finding someone that he felt love from and love toward,” Darby told Indiewire. “I think he’s heading back out to sea just because he’d never felt so alive in his life when he was practically dead. So I think he’s obviously going to look for Ed, but really the other thing he’s going to look for is getting the gang back together, getting the ship, and feeling love in whatever capacity that means to him.”
Unfortunately he’ll have his work cut out for him, since Ed went completely the other way following their breakup. His final actions in the season 1 finale involve returning to the Blackbeard he once was, and hardening himself against the world: He cuts off Izzy’s toes and feeds them to him, maroons members of Stede’s crew he doesn’t have use for, and even lashes out violently at those he does.
“The show is the relationship,” Jenkins told Decider. “So, we end in a place where there is this breakup. What happens after a breakup between these two people who, one’s realized he’s in love and the other one is hurt in a way that he’s never been hurt before? Is that what happens to them? So again, I really love those rom-com beats.”
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Jenkins continues to be committed to his thoughts Our Flag Means DeathIt’s a love story about Ed and Stede. But that might not mean their issues get resolved completely in season 2; he’s thinking a bit more long-term, as he told Polygon ahead of the finale:
Three seasons seems good to me. It could be done in three. I mean, I don’t know — your perception of what the story really is changes so much in the writers’ room. If it doesn’t, you’re doing it wrong. Because you’ve got all these other super-smart writers who have their own life experiences, and you talk through the season with them, and then you’re like, “Oh, man, there’s all this other stuff there.” But right now, I feel like we could probably do it in three. What fascinates me most about this story is the question of “Stede to Blackbeard” and “Blackbeard to Stede”. To me, that’s the through-line that cuts across the entire series. And I don’t know that you want to see that go on for five, six seasons.
Izzy, where do you fit into this love story?
Stede will have to work hard trying to win Ed’s back. But his first love might be a challenge. Having convinced Ed to revert to full Blackbeard form, Izzy’s devotion to Ed’s wild side is something Jenkins says is deeply rooted in its own form of affection. And while he agrees with the idea that Con O’Neill’s Izzy is “playing the only human with a bunch of Muppets” there’s certainly menace behind that devotion.
“I think Izzy’s deeply in love with Blackbeard, and it’s a very dysfunctional kind of love, and he’s like the jilted spouse who’s losing his man to fucking Stede Bonnet, and he can’t believe this is happening,” Jenkins told The Verge in April. “[Con O’Neill] plays an exhausted quality that’s really lovely because this character could just be generically evil, and the way Con plays, it is like, he’s credible. I believe that he can do some damage if he wanted to.”
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Is Our Flag Means Death season 2 based on the true pirates’ story?
Our Flag Means Death is good and cheery, but Blackbeard and Bonnet’s actual history is far darker. But ultimately, Jenkins doesn’t see the show as a reexamination of the real historical record.
“You wouldn’t want to meet the real Blackbeard. Blackbeard, the true Blackbeard, was a rapper who turned women over to his crew. Stede Bonnet, the real Stede Bonnet, was actually a slave owner. When we tell these stories, we have to be clear with what we’re doing because all of these people were despicable,” Jenkins told The Verge.
“We wanted a show where these characters can exist in a fantasy world and their race or gayness doesn’t automatically lead to a traumatic storyline for them.”
Will we meet more of Spanish Jackie’s husbands?
It seems like an obvious bet, given the alleged sheer number of them. Plus Leslie Jones told TV Insider that she thinks there’s a story in how Jackie got her name: “I think it has something to do with a dude, with one of her ex-husbands or something, because I don’t think she’s Spanish.”
So maybe we’ll meet a past one, or a former-potential-Mr. Spanish Jackie.
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